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The type of visitor contributes to the problem a lot but let me tell you, I have seen similar behavior in other places too by obviously educated guys.
I was lounging around next to the whirlpool tub in a FKK in Germany some time ago and a couple of Indian guys invited a black girl to join them in it.
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That is verified because they don't want Blacks to come in either. When they find out a black is from the USA, they are accepted with open arms. Hell, in Indonesia, they love the Bollywood movies. Only stayed 10 minutes since my buddy has a thing that we have to finish our drinks before we leave. Thankfully he went in since this bar had the cutest 3 gogo girls I saw in Bangkok this week.
But ask any taxi driver in Jakarta about Indians, and they will immediately tell you the bad stories of their experiences with many Indians being bossy, rude, and cheap and will say they do not pick them up if they can avoid it. One of the worst lineups I have ever seen in any gogo bar for my tastes. I downed my drink in 15 seconds and waited for him. Yes, you have to ignore the dozen or so ladyboys here but they are easy to spot in this bar.
So, don't be a Cheap Charlie and good, good times are in store for you. The only difference is the way the Farangs speak, and the perception of Indians and the color of their skin. The percentage of farangs who pull that crap (relative to the total number of farang tourists in pattaya) is FAR less than the percentage of Indians (relative to the total number of Indian tourists in pattaya) who do it.
It has nothing to do with skin color and everything to do with a reputation built over the years. My buddy was hesitant going in to a bar with some ladyboys present but I convinced him there were cute girls in here in the past.
They enjoyed her company for a long time and then curtly said "You can go" to her.
Needless to say the girl was indignant and discussed the issue with her friend nearby after climbing out."Telling Indians to blame other Indians seems like you are blaming the victim for the way he looks." - Sorry, but this is not a case of blaming the victim. There are good Indians of course (they are the victims). Rainbow 3 - only about 10 girls visible and no customers when we walked in. I asked my buddy if he wanted me to get drinks for 2 girls on stage we liked. I'm not sure why but I decided to wait a minute or 2 for him to return rather than just grabbing the girls for drinks. Talent wise this week in Bangkok gogo bars is MUCH weaker than Pattaya.And they should be placing the blame on the Indians causing the problem in the first place (that number is large and they are not victims). And of course I feel bad for them being stereotyped. Within that time the Japanese guy beside me grabbed the busty one I wanted. She was flirting with me more than with the Japanese guy who eventually barfined her. So much so I shortened my Bangkok stay to return to Pattaya tonight.That is verified because they don't want Blacks to come in either. When they find out a black is from the USA, they are accepted with open arms. Hell, in Indonesia, they love the Bollywood movies.But ask any taxi driver in Jakarta about Indians, and they will immediately tell you the bad stories of their experiences with many Indians being bossy, rude, and cheap and will say they do not pick them up if they can avoid it.Let the girl have control then she feel more comfortable with you.